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Fire separation between tenants

New postby wagurto on Fri Mar 02, 2018 11:54 am

Hi guys, i have this project which is a office building. My client bought 1,500 sf of office space and i noticed that the a/c units for this space come from the other units. The building is fire sprinklered but i am not sure if it is properly compartmented between tenants. Do you think the code will force me to compartment and fire separate my office from the others? Do i need to separate electrical and mechanical systems?
please let me know what do you think.
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Re: Fire separation between tenants

New postby Jerry Peck - Codeman on Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:31 pm

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Re: Fire separation between tenants

New postby wagurto on Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:54 pm

Thank you Jerry always helpful and knowledgeable.
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Re: Fire separation between tenants

New postby wagurto on Wed Nov 14, 2018 12:43 pm

Hi Jerry,
I have this project that is 6,000 sf warehouse. We are dividing this space is 5 office spaces. The building is fire sprinklered and my question is "Do I need to fire separate each space from each other" Per your previous response I guess not but I want to make sure.
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Re: Fire separation between tenants

New postby Jerry Peck - Codeman on Wed Nov 14, 2018 4:50 pm

Separation between occupancies - see tables below.

For offices, Business occupancy, go to 6th row below the header row, to B<sup>e</sup> (see note e), then across to 6th header column, which has "S" (Sprinklered) and "NS" (Not Sprinklered) sub columns.

See note "S" for the type of sprinklers systems which can be used for reductions in separations) - however, in this case (Business and the other occupancies listed, there is an "N" which means that no separation is required between theses occupancies (see note "N - No separation requirement) ... however, there can be a catch in this for "Existing Buildings".

For existing buildings, you first start with the Existing Building Code, which addresses maintaining what was there (legally existing) from the code the existing building was built under. This can affect repairs, etc, as the code under which the building was constructed still applies, and that older code may have required tenant separation for various occupancies. However, the Existing Building Code also states:
- From the 2017 FBC-Existing Building (underlining is mine)

- - [A]101.4 Applicability.
- - - This code shall apply to the repair, alteration, change of occupancy, addition and relocation of existing buildings, regardless of occupancy, subject to the criteria of Sections 101.4.1 and 101.4.2.
- - - [A]101.4.1 Buildings not previously occupied.
- - - - A building or portion of a building that has not been previously occupied or used for its intended purpose in accordance with the laws in existence at the time of its completion shall be permitted to comply with the provisions of the laws in existence at the time of its original permit unless such permit has expired. Subsequent permits shall comply with the Florida Building Code, Building or Florida Building Code, Residential, as applicable, for new construction.
- - - [A]101.4.2 Buildings previously occupied.
- - - - The legal occupancy of any building existing on the date of adoption of this code shall be permitted to continue without change, except as is specifically covered in this code, the Florida Fire Prevention Code, or as is deemed necessary by the code official for the general safety and welfare of the occupants and the public.

- - SECTION 506
- - - CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY
- - - - 506.1 Scope.
- - - - - Change of occupancy provisions apply where the activity is classified as a change of occupancy as defined in Chapter 2.
- - - - 506.2 Application.
- - - - - Changes of occupancy shall comply with the provisions of Chapter 10.

Which means you get to review Chapter 10 to see what applies:
- - CHAPTER 10
- - - CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY
- - - - 1001.2.2 Change of occupancy classification or group.
- - - - - Where the occupancy classification of a building changes, the provisions of Sections 1002 through 1012 shall apply. This includes a change of occupancy classification and a change to another group within an occupancy classification.

Which means ... you may end up with no separation as per the current code ... but check with the AHJ to make sure how and what is being applied.

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